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KEF 2017 Q350 2-Way Bookshelf Speakers with Uni-Q Drivers Review The eighth iteration of the Q Series includes the KEF Q350, a 2-way 6.5' bookshelf that's at home in a 2.0 system as well as paired with a subwoofer or two. KEF Uni-Q driver array is nothing short of a masterpiece. Now let’s look at the individual components for a moment to illustrate kef uni q how hard it is for a speaker system to replicate this performance.
Of the many landmark innovations KEF has pioneered, arguably the greatest of all is the Uni-Q point source driver array, with its outstanding acoustic clarity and off-axis dispersion. Kef free download - KEF LS50 Wireless, KEF Wireless Setup, Fruity Beats, and many more programs. Sorry, that hp printer drivers for mac. Driver Booster. Avast Free Antivirus. Best Video Software for the Mac How To Run MacOS High. KEF Uni-Q driver array is nothing short of a masterpiece. Now let’s look at the individual components for a moment to illustrate kef uni q how hard it is for a speaker system to replicate this performance.
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Originally Posted by imagic
The number one reason I dislike posting measurements is you can't really separate the room from the equation, and sometimes that leads to misunderstanding and contention.
Sure, I wish I had an anechoic chamber, but that's not happening.
The fact that rooms impact bass response to the extent they do is the same reason I gladly use room correction.
On a related note, I don't much care how speakers sound without DSP-based EQ because it exists and is marvelously effective. Consequently, I have ZERO sympathy for audiophile traditionalists who won't use it.
I think the reason the new KEF LS50 Wireless sound so much better (to most people) than the passive LS50 can be attributed to the DSP and matched amps within them. Perhaps a small bit of that is due to the increased depth of the cabinet and mass added for the electronics, but whatever the case it really works!Sure, I wish I had an anechoic chamber, but that's not happening.
The fact that rooms impact bass response to the extent they do is the same reason I gladly use room correction.
On a related note, I don't much care how speakers sound without DSP-based EQ because it exists and is marvelously effective. Consequently, I have ZERO sympathy for audiophile traditionalists who won't use it.
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Originally Posted by KenM10759
I think the reason the new KEF LS50 Wireless sound so much better (to most people) than the passive LS50 can be attributed to the DSP and matched amps within them. Perhaps a small bit of that is due to the increased depth of the cabinet and mass added for the electronics, but whatever the case it really works!
There is no question that active speaker designs benefit from DSP and also precisely matching the amplification to the drivers. This effect is particularly pronounced in the world of soundbars, where lately I've seen premium models measure exceptionally well, and have heard a steady improvements in fidelity.AVS Forum Special Member
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Originally Posted by imagic
There is no question that active speaker designs benefit from DSP and also precisely matching the amplification to the drivers. This effect is particularly pronounced in the world of soundbars, where lately I've seen premium models measure exceptionally well, and have heard a steady improvements in fidelity.
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My sister's Bluesound Pulse Soundbar is a prime example of that! I hated soundbars until I heard that one.
I have one of those here that I need to review. Paul Barton (of PSB loudspeakers) tuned that model. AVS Forum Special Member
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Originally Posted by imagic
I have one of those here that I need to review. Paul Barton (of PSB loudspeakers) tuned that model.
I'm well aware of the Paul Barton influence on it, and the sound quality reveal that! When I installed it for my sister & her husband, I loaded the Bluesound app on her phone, tablet, her husband's phone and my sister's PC, then entered my account info for Tidal HiFi. I played some tunes, then selected the same ones from Tidal's 'Masters' (MQA) files and they were shocked.His old AR speakers have been collecting dust since.
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How is the BASS on these speakers. If you listen to alot of two channel music on cds & do NOT want to add a subwoofer, are these KEF 350 Q series bookshelf speakers good enough?
I have the Pioneer SP-FS52 floorstanding speakers. I love the bass, warm, neutral & not bright sound of those speakers. Not looking at any KEF floor speakers, only bookshelf speakers. Just wondering....
I have the Pioneer SP-FS52 floorstanding speakers. I love the bass, warm, neutral & not bright sound of those speakers. Not looking at any KEF floor speakers, only bookshelf speakers. Just wondering....
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How is the BASS on these speakers. If you listen to alot of two channel music on cds & do NOT want to add a subwoofer, are these KEF 350 Q series bookshelf speakers good enough?
I have the Pioneer SP-FS52 floorstanding speakers. I love the bass, warm, neutral & not bright sound of those speakers. Not looking at any KEF floor speakers, only bookshelf speakers. Just wondering....
What I think you'd find is that those Q350's get VERY close to going as low as the Pioneer SP-FS52, but do it so much more cleanly that you wouldn't feel you were missing a thing. Quite the opposite actually, you'd hear details you never heard before at every level. When I say very close in the low frequencies, just look at how low they go in Mark's graphs on the first page. I would qualify my comments with mentioning that it's best to get them away from the wall by a foot or more for best results. I have the Pioneer SP-FS52 floorstanding speakers. I love the bass, warm, neutral & not bright sound of those speakers. Not looking at any KEF floor speakers, only bookshelf speakers. Just wondering....
Overall, I'm confident you would be in shock about how much better everything sounds!
Edit: I just found a review of those Pioneer SP-FS52 with measurements. The Q350's seem to smash them in bass output if Mark's charts are to be trusted. And they certainly are!
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Originally Posted by Umcanny
How is the BASS on these speakers. If you listen to alot of two channel music on cds & do NOT want to add a subwoofer, are these KEF 350 Q series bookshelf speakers good enough?
I have the Pioneer SP-FS52 floorstanding speakers. I love the bass, warm, neutral & not bright sound of those speakers. Not looking at any KEF floor speakers, only bookshelf speakers. Just wondering....
Kefs do have a warm mid range but i don't think you could classify them as warm.. you might try wharfedale or elac debut or uni fi speakers. there are others as well Quad speakers come to mind.. I have the Pioneer SP-FS52 floorstanding speakers. I love the bass, warm, neutral & not bright sound of those speakers. Not looking at any KEF floor speakers, only bookshelf speakers. Just wondering....
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Some info guys thanks. Was just looking at the bigger KEF 350 over the smaller KEF 150 (want more Bass), & the SVS Ultra Bookshelf speakers. They would just be for another room. I want something more higher quality like these two speakers. So the KEF 350 has bass better than the Pioneer SP FS52s floorstanding speakers.
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Originally Posted by Umcanny
Some info guys thanks. Was just looking at the bigger KEF 350 over the smaller KEF 150 (want more Bass), & the SVS Ultra Bookshelf speakers. They would just be for another room. I want something more higher quality like these two speakers. So the KEF 350 has bass better than the Pioneer SP FS52s floorstanding speakers.
Don't take my word for it, check the measurements:http://www.audioholics.com/tower-spe..s-measurements
Measurements for the Q350's are on the first page of this thread.
BTW, the speakers are considered warm by some, neutral by most. A very tiny minority might find them a bit bright. The measurements @imagic (Mark H) did show the treble rolling off at the very highest frequencies. There are subtle differences in amps that can compensate, as can speaker placement in terms of a little toe-in or toe-out. I know I'd love to have a pair in my spare bedroom to wow some guests. It could happen next year.
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Hope someone can help me out. The lack of shops selling the Kef`s makes it impossible to test for me. I`ve settled on the Q350, but having trouble making a decision regarding amplifier. This is my first real hifi-equipment, so a total n00b at hand. Been researching for a few days, and have come up with some options. The prices here in Norway is not the same as abroad, so I`ve included the local price for reference. Does anyone have any advice on which to choose? I will be using it 60/40 music/movies, in my livingroom, which is around 15-20 sqm. I would like the ability to stream via bluetooth, and also one optical input for the TV-connection. The options are as follows (but suggestions are welcome):
Cambridge Audio CXA60 (included bluetooth) ($720)
BLUESOUND POWERNODE2 ($790)
Marantz M-CR611 ($850) (a local hi-fi shop said this is probably to weak for those speakers in a larger room)
NAD C 338 ($765)
Yamaha R-N602 ($600)
Sony STR-DN1080 ($600)
Marantz M-CR511 ($370)
One outsider: Primare I22 ($850)
I`ve been reading to much, and I am now incapable of making a decision. Paralysis by analysis as they say. Would just like to pick something that serves the Q350 justice, without breaking the bank. Is it possible? Any of them good enough? Any tips are very much appreciated.
Cambridge Audio CXA60 (included bluetooth) ($720)
BLUESOUND POWERNODE2 ($790)
Marantz M-CR611 ($850) (a local hi-fi shop said this is probably to weak for those speakers in a larger room)
NAD C 338 ($765)
Yamaha R-N602 ($600)
Sony STR-DN1080 ($600)
Marantz M-CR511 ($370)
One outsider: Primare I22 ($850)
I`ve been reading to much, and I am now incapable of making a decision. Paralysis by analysis as they say. Would just like to pick something that serves the Q350 justice, without breaking the bank. Is it possible? Any of them good enough? Any tips are very much appreciated.
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Of those, I've heard all but the Cambridge, Marantz and Primare. Based upon the speakers, total capability of the amps, and feature set I'd go with the Powernode 2. It'll handle anything you send via Bluetooth but also stream direct from any source (NAS) on your network wirelessly or stream from a wide range of services and internet radio stations. I think it may be the only one capable of full MQA unfold too. What I like is it doesn't come with nor need a remote..your phone, tablet or even desktop computer does it all. The best feature? Continuous improvement in the interface apps with free updates and the best support of any product I own.
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Originally Posted by KenM10759
Of those, I've heard all but the Cambridge, Marantz and Primare. Based upon the speakers, total capability of the amps, and feature set I'd go with the Powernode 2. It'll handle anything you send via Bluetooth but also stream direct from any source (NAS) on your network wirelessly or stream from a wide range of services and internet radio stations. I think it may be the only one capable of full MQA unfold too. What I like is it doesn't come with nor need a remote..your phone, tablet or even desktop computer does it all. The best feature? Continuous improvement in the interface apps with free updates and the best support of any product I own.
Thanks for your reply, I`ll give the PowerNode2 a go. Newbie
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Hope someone can help me out. The lack of shops selling the Kef`s makes it impossible to test for me. I`ve settled on the Q350, but having trouble making a decision regarding amplifier. This is my first real hifi-equipment, so a total n00b at hand. Been researching for a few days, and have come up with some options. The prices here in Norway is not the same as abroad, so I`ve included the local price for reference. Does anyone have any advice on which to choose? I will be using it 60/40 music/movies, in my livingroom, which is around 15-20 sqm. I would like the ability to stream via bluetooth, and also one optical input for the TV-connection. The options are as follows (but suggestions are welcome):
Cambridge Audio CXA60 (included bluetooth) ($720)
BLUESOUND POWERNODE2 ($790)
Marantz M-CR611 ($850) (a local hi-fi shop said this is probably to weak for those speakers in a larger room)
NAD C 338 ($765)
Yamaha R-N602 ($600)
Sony STR-DN1080 ($600)
Marantz M-CR511 ($370)
One outsider: Primare I22 ($850)
I`ve been reading to much, and I am now incapable of making a decision. Paralysis by analysis as they say. Would just like to pick something that serves the Q350 justice, without breaking the bank. Is it possible? Any of them good enough? Any tips are very much appreciated.
CXA60 by a huge margin. Just have in mind that uni-q driver love and need strong amps and lots of clean current. My advice would definitely be some 'classic' and full size amp. I tried Q150/350 with PMA50 and Marantz AMP1 and that was completely different speaker for the worse. Hegel made them sing amazingly but is relatively expensive. Cambridge Audio CXA60 (included bluetooth) ($720)
BLUESOUND POWERNODE2 ($790)
Marantz M-CR611 ($850) (a local hi-fi shop said this is probably to weak for those speakers in a larger room)
NAD C 338 ($765)
Yamaha R-N602 ($600)
Sony STR-DN1080 ($600)
Marantz M-CR511 ($370)
One outsider: Primare I22 ($850)
I`ve been reading to much, and I am now incapable of making a decision. Paralysis by analysis as they say. Would just like to pick something that serves the Q350 justice, without breaking the bank. Is it possible? Any of them good enough? Any tips are very much appreciated.
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My Audyssey room correction has configured these Kefs as Large. Anyone else has the same results? I have an external 2-ch amp powering these from an receiver. I kind of like the sound with Audyssey on. Has anyone tried setting them as 'small'?
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Small. Always.
It's a very common thing at Audyssey screws up. If you leave it on large it sends full signal to the Q350, including the lowest frequencies it can't possibly reproduce, but may 'die trying.' Check the crossover setting too, should be down around 80-90hz.
It's a very common thing at Audyssey screws up. If you leave it on large it sends full signal to the Q350, including the lowest frequencies it can't possibly reproduce, but may 'die trying.' Check the crossover setting too, should be down around 80-90hz.
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Originally Posted by jc46
My Audyssey room correction has configured these Kefs as Large. ..
Originally Posted by KenM10759
Small. Always.
It's a very common thing at Audyssey screws up. ..
It's a very common thing at Audyssey screws up. ..
Audyssey often gets the blame, but it's not true. The receiver determines that, not Audyssey.
See here for more explanation (note that the included link no longer works):
Chris Kyriakakis February 04, 2010 19:23
Audyssey doesn't set crossovers in any product. It finds the low frequency roll off point of your speakers and reports that to the AVR. Every manufacturer uses that information differently. In your product, speakers found to roll off below 40 Hz are set by Onkyo to Full Range (i.e. with no crossover to the sub). That means that bass will not be redirected to the sub. Audyssey recommends that if you have a sub you should set crossovers for all your speakers. I would suggest starting with 80 Hz. I wrote much more on this topic here:
http://www.audyssey.com/blog/2009/05/small-vs-large/
https://audyssey.zendesk.com/hc/en-u..over-frequencyAudyssey doesn't set crossovers in any product. It finds the low frequency roll off point of your speakers and reports that to the AVR. Every manufacturer uses that information differently. In your product, speakers found to roll off below 40 Hz are set by Onkyo to Full Range (i.e. with no crossover to the sub). That means that bass will not be redirected to the sub. Audyssey recommends that if you have a sub you should set crossovers for all your speakers. I would suggest starting with 80 Hz. I wrote much more on this topic here:
http://www.audyssey.com/blog/2009/05/small-vs-large/
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OK, I'll give you that but who supplies the microphone and why are the measurements of roll-off so skewed? It's well documented where almost any speaker rolls off via published measurements done with fairly expensive equipment, yet Audyssey is measuring and reporting to the receiver something far lower than that?
Semantics. We know where it should be so after I run Audyssey I go in and set the speaker size (if it's wrong), correct the crossover points and sometime fool with the erroneous distances it measured.
Semantics. We know where it should be so after I run Audyssey I go in and set the speaker size (if it's wrong), correct the crossover points and sometime fool with the erroneous distances it measured.
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I just finished putting together a Q350 main, Q650 centre and Q100 surround setup with a JLE110 subwoofer. I compared a ton of different options Paradigm (sorry forgot the model # but I believe it was from their monitor lineup), Dynaudio Emit 20, B&W 685s2, Monitor Silver.
Firstly I will make it clear that these are just my impressions after reading a ton and listening to all these speakers one thing that I have firmly decided is that speakers of a certain price point sound different rather than way better or worse. The only speaker setup that I tested that didn't compete at all was the Paradigm (sales guy quickly moved me onto Dynaudio and I can't even remember the model # so not the most helpful tidbit).
I settled on the Q series because I felt they provided the best balance for movies and music. Personally I am probably 80/20 for home theater usage vs movies as this is a dedicated theater but when looking at options would have placed a 50/50 importance on music vs movie performance. (aka I might not listen to nearly as much music but when I want to it is very important to me that it sounds great)
I felt the Dynaudio setup was let down horribly by its center channel and was quickly ruled to not be a contender. As for music it compared favourably and in my view it was just behind the B&Ws2 and Q350
I actually preferred the 685s2 the most for the type of music I listen to the most of tom petty and psychedelic rock but felt they were not as clear and transparent on more delicate music and didn't feel they were a great match for home theater.
The monitor audio were my least favourite for 2 channel music they were crisp to a fault in my opinion (its fans would call this transparent) but they just weren't my style.
All that being said if anyone of the options was cheaper by a few hundred dollars I would have given it far more consideration especially the B&W. The reality was I was able to pick up the entire 5.0 KEF package for a few dollars less than 1,500 CDN (1,200 USD) a B&W 685 front with 686 back and Htm61 would have been over $2,000 (actually well over but I have a feeling the price gap much be smaller utilizing different dealers). I did this listening before price negotiations which I think went really well. In reality I paid for a what step down in all these model lines go for which really resolves any potential buyers remorse.
Some other considerations that I had were the q100 being front ported and a great speaker, I prefer them over the B&W 686. You can currently get them for $300cdn from a few sources and I think they are excellent and for most people a better option than the Q150 given their front port design.
While I wouldn't feel comfortable unilaterally rating these as the best speakers vs the other options- for me they were by the best option in a very crowded field. They certainly deserve an audition and the higher your percentage of HT vs Music use the stronger my recommendation would be based on their clarity.
I did not demo any of these brand subwoofers but for anyone considering a 5.1 system I would recommend you look to other sources (as compared to any of these brands) I had the e110 left over from a 'lifestyle' system so it is what I am using it is very expensive but looks amazing and punches far beyond it's weight. If I had to order a sub in Canada for this system it would be a SB2000 for another $1,000 bringing the whole package cost to $2,500 CDN which in my opinion offers the best deal going by far.
Firstly I will make it clear that these are just my impressions after reading a ton and listening to all these speakers one thing that I have firmly decided is that speakers of a certain price point sound different rather than way better or worse. The only speaker setup that I tested that didn't compete at all was the Paradigm (sales guy quickly moved me onto Dynaudio and I can't even remember the model # so not the most helpful tidbit).
I settled on the Q series because I felt they provided the best balance for movies and music. Personally I am probably 80/20 for home theater usage vs movies as this is a dedicated theater but when looking at options would have placed a 50/50 importance on music vs movie performance. (aka I might not listen to nearly as much music but when I want to it is very important to me that it sounds great)
I felt the Dynaudio setup was let down horribly by its center channel and was quickly ruled to not be a contender. As for music it compared favourably and in my view it was just behind the B&Ws2 and Q350
I actually preferred the 685s2 the most for the type of music I listen to the most of tom petty and psychedelic rock but felt they were not as clear and transparent on more delicate music and didn't feel they were a great match for home theater.
The monitor audio were my least favourite for 2 channel music they were crisp to a fault in my opinion (its fans would call this transparent) but they just weren't my style.
All that being said if anyone of the options was cheaper by a few hundred dollars I would have given it far more consideration especially the B&W. The reality was I was able to pick up the entire 5.0 KEF package for a few dollars less than 1,500 CDN (1,200 USD) a B&W 685 front with 686 back and Htm61 would have been over $2,000 (actually well over but I have a feeling the price gap much be smaller utilizing different dealers). I did this listening before price negotiations which I think went really well. In reality I paid for a what step down in all these model lines go for which really resolves any potential buyers remorse.
Some other considerations that I had were the q100 being front ported and a great speaker, I prefer them over the B&W 686. You can currently get them for $300cdn from a few sources and I think they are excellent and for most people a better option than the Q150 given their front port design.
While I wouldn't feel comfortable unilaterally rating these as the best speakers vs the other options- for me they were by the best option in a very crowded field. They certainly deserve an audition and the higher your percentage of HT vs Music use the stronger my recommendation would be based on their clarity.
I did not demo any of these brand subwoofers but for anyone considering a 5.1 system I would recommend you look to other sources (as compared to any of these brands) I had the e110 left over from a 'lifestyle' system so it is what I am using it is very expensive but looks amazing and punches far beyond it's weight. If I had to order a sub in Canada for this system it would be a SB2000 for another $1,000 bringing the whole package cost to $2,500 CDN which in my opinion offers the best deal going by far.
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I just recently bought Q150s and also have room measurements posted in the Q150 vs LS50 thread and the Q150 seems to be a much smoother speaker, I feel like most of the 5' uniQ drivers have a smoother, more neutral frequency response at the expense of deeper bass. I personally think the 150 has plenty of bass to blend with a sub but the 350 have a massive amount of bass, you could probably get by without a sub if needed.
One other thing though, I think people should be careful with room correction, I noticed in the Dirac measurements, it extends the bass all the way down to 30-50Hz and is pretty strong, this is most likely below the port tuning which will result in large woofer excursion, high distortion and most likely audible intermodulation distortion. As far as the higher frequencies above the room transition of about 200Hz, you can often do more harm than good, especially if you're starting with a good speaker. I bought Floyd Toole's new book Sound Reproduction and quoting from Chapter 12 he states 'Equalizing a flawed loudspeaker to have a room curve that looks like f(f is the idealized room curve, the same that dirac uses), guarantees nothing.' He also says that when a listener hears a difference in sound, it is enough to believe there is an improvement.
One other thing though, I think people should be careful with room correction, I noticed in the Dirac measurements, it extends the bass all the way down to 30-50Hz and is pretty strong, this is most likely below the port tuning which will result in large woofer excursion, high distortion and most likely audible intermodulation distortion. As far as the higher frequencies above the room transition of about 200Hz, you can often do more harm than good, especially if you're starting with a good speaker. I bought Floyd Toole's new book Sound Reproduction and quoting from Chapter 12 he states 'Equalizing a flawed loudspeaker to have a room curve that looks like f(f is the idealized room curve, the same that dirac uses), guarantees nothing.' He also says that when a listener hears a difference in sound, it is enough to believe there is an improvement.
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Would these be a good option to replace a pair of Paradigm Studio 20s v4?
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Would these be a good option to replace a pair of Paradigm Studio 20s v4?
Only if you go listen to them and think so. I wouldn't take other people's impressions as gospel..especially mine.Those Studio 20v4 are a much larger, front-ported speaker than KEF Q150. They probably put out a lot more bass with a 7' driver, and have a more bright tweeter.
The better comparison might be the KEF Q350. It's a 6-1/2' Uni-Q driver, has a more refined tweeter than the old Paradigm. Definitely worth a listen.
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Originally Posted by KenM10759
Only if you go listen to them and think so. I wouldn't take other people's impressions as gospel..especially mine.
Those Studio 20v4 are a much larger, front-ported speaker than KEF Q150. They probably put out a lot more bass with a 7' driver, and have a more bright tweeter.
The better comparison might be the KEF Q350. It's a 6-1/2' Uni-Q driver, has a more refined tweeter than the old Paradigm. Definitely worth a listen.
yeah, I meant the q350. Those Studio 20v4 are a much larger, front-ported speaker than KEF Q150. They probably put out a lot more bass with a 7' driver, and have a more bright tweeter.
The better comparison might be the KEF Q350. It's a 6-1/2' Uni-Q driver, has a more refined tweeter than the old Paradigm. Definitely worth a listen.
They purportedly dig deeper '35hz vs 38hz' and I would imagine the depth, soundstage, and imaging to be much better with the enhanced Uni-Q driver. They also get very good remarks for their mid-bass/vocals, which is important to me, since I already have an excellent sub.
And btw, I have the Signature v1's. They're very similar, if not the same as the v4's.
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yeah, I meant the q350.
They purportedly dig deeper '35hz vs 38hz' and I would imagine the depth, soundstage, and imaging to be much better with the enhanced Uni-Q driver. They also get very good remarks for their mid-bass/vocals, which is important to me, since I already have an excellent sub.
And btw, I have the Signature v1's. They're very similar, if not the same as the v4's.
In that case, I believe you would be wowed. They purportedly dig deeper '35hz vs 38hz' and I would imagine the depth, soundstage, and imaging to be much better with the enhanced Uni-Q driver. They also get very good remarks for their mid-bass/vocals, which is important to me, since I already have an excellent sub.
And btw, I have the Signature v1's. They're very similar, if not the same as the v4's.
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I’ve got two SVS SB2000 subwoofers, Yamaha receiver pre-outs to Rotel power amplifiers.
The speakers need to be 3/4 to 1 metre from side and back walls.
With YPAO processing, should I be leaving Q350 ports plugged or unplugged?
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I’ve got two SVS SB2000 subwoofers, Yamaha receiver pre-outs to Rotel power amplifiers.
The speakers need to be 3/4 to 1 metre from side and back walls.
With YPAO processing, should I be leaving Q350 ports plugged or unplugged?
R’s, Alex
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If your Q350's are that far from the rear boundary, no port plugs required. Unless you don't like good mid-bass. 😆
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Originally Posted by KenM10759
If your Q350's are that far from the rear boundary, no port plugs required. Unless you don't like good mid-bass. 😆
My understanding is that port contributes to lower bass.My feeling is I dont need lower bass from Q350 - I need just enough to blend with subwoofers set at 80Hz crossover.
Is my understanding correct that I could just plug the port (regardless of distance to walls) since YPAO will equalise smooth transition at crossover?
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The ports only need to be plugged if close to a wall and acting 'boomy.' Your AVR's electronic crossover will cutoff the lower frequencies that the speakers can't do well, no need to work on that 'mechanically.'
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I just finished putting together a Q350 main, Q650 centre and Q100 surround setup with a JLE110 subwoofer. I compared a ton of different options Paradigm (sorry forgot the model # but I believe it was from their monitor lineup), Dynaudio Emit 20, B&W 685s2, Monitor Silver.
Firstly I will make it clear that these are just my impressions after reading a ton and listening to all these speakers one thing that I have firmly decided is that speakers of a certain price point sound different rather than way better or worse. The only speaker setup that I tested that didn't compete at all was the Paradigm (sales guy quickly moved me onto Dynaudio and I can't even remember the model # so not the most helpful tidbit).
I settled on the Q series because I felt they provided the best balance for movies and music. Personally I am probably 80/20 for home theater usage vs movies as this is a dedicated theater but when looking at options would have placed a 50/50 importance on music vs movie performance. (aka I might not listen to nearly as much music but when I want to it is very important to me that it sounds great)
I felt the Dynaudio setup was let down horribly by its center channel and was quickly ruled to not be a contender. As for music it compared favourably and in my view it was just behind the B&Ws2 and Q350
I actually preferred the 685s2 the most for the type of music I listen to the most of tom petty and psychedelic rock but felt they were not as clear and transparent on more delicate music and didn't feel they were a great match for home theater.
The monitor audio were my least favourite for 2 channel music they were crisp to a fault in my opinion (its fans would call this transparent) but they just weren't my style.
All that being said if anyone of the options was cheaper by a few hundred dollars I would have given it far more consideration especially the B&W. The reality was I was able to pick up the entire 5.0 KEF package for a few dollars less than 1,500 CDN (1,200 USD) a B&W 685 front with 686 back and Htm61 would have been over $2,000 (actually well over but I have a feeling the price gap much be smaller utilizing different dealers). I did this listening before price negotiations which I think went really well. In reality I paid for a what step down in all these model lines go for which really resolves any potential buyers remorse.
Some other considerations that I had were the q100 being front ported and a great speaker, I prefer them over the B&W 686. You can currently get them for $300cdn from a few sources and I think they are excellent and for most people a better option than the Q150 given their front port design.
While I wouldn't feel comfortable unilaterally rating these as the best speakers vs the other options- for me they were by the best option in a very crowded field. They certainly deserve an audition and the higher your percentage of HT vs Music use the stronger my recommendation would be based on their clarity.
I did not demo any of these brand subwoofers but for anyone considering a 5.1 system I would recommend you look to other sources (as compared to any of these brands) I had the e110 left over from a 'lifestyle' system so it is what I am using it is very expensive but looks amazing and punches far beyond it's weight. If I had to order a sub in Canada for this system it would be a SB2000 for another $1,000 bringing the whole package cost to $2,500 CDN which in my opinion offers the best deal going by far.
Im upgrading.have an jl e112 alreadyFirstly I will make it clear that these are just my impressions after reading a ton and listening to all these speakers one thing that I have firmly decided is that speakers of a certain price point sound different rather than way better or worse. The only speaker setup that I tested that didn't compete at all was the Paradigm (sales guy quickly moved me onto Dynaudio and I can't even remember the model # so not the most helpful tidbit).
I settled on the Q series because I felt they provided the best balance for movies and music. Personally I am probably 80/20 for home theater usage vs movies as this is a dedicated theater but when looking at options would have placed a 50/50 importance on music vs movie performance. (aka I might not listen to nearly as much music but when I want to it is very important to me that it sounds great)
I felt the Dynaudio setup was let down horribly by its center channel and was quickly ruled to not be a contender. As for music it compared favourably and in my view it was just behind the B&Ws2 and Q350
I actually preferred the 685s2 the most for the type of music I listen to the most of tom petty and psychedelic rock but felt they were not as clear and transparent on more delicate music and didn't feel they were a great match for home theater.
The monitor audio were my least favourite for 2 channel music they were crisp to a fault in my opinion (its fans would call this transparent) but they just weren't my style.
All that being said if anyone of the options was cheaper by a few hundred dollars I would have given it far more consideration especially the B&W. The reality was I was able to pick up the entire 5.0 KEF package for a few dollars less than 1,500 CDN (1,200 USD) a B&W 685 front with 686 back and Htm61 would have been over $2,000 (actually well over but I have a feeling the price gap much be smaller utilizing different dealers). I did this listening before price negotiations which I think went really well. In reality I paid for a what step down in all these model lines go for which really resolves any potential buyers remorse.
Some other considerations that I had were the q100 being front ported and a great speaker, I prefer them over the B&W 686. You can currently get them for $300cdn from a few sources and I think they are excellent and for most people a better option than the Q150 given their front port design.
While I wouldn't feel comfortable unilaterally rating these as the best speakers vs the other options- for me they were by the best option in a very crowded field. They certainly deserve an audition and the higher your percentage of HT vs Music use the stronger my recommendation would be based on their clarity.
I did not demo any of these brand subwoofers but for anyone considering a 5.1 system I would recommend you look to other sources (as compared to any of these brands) I had the e110 left over from a 'lifestyle' system so it is what I am using it is very expensive but looks amazing and punches far beyond it's weight. If I had to order a sub in Canada for this system it would be a SB2000 for another $1,000 bringing the whole package cost to $2,500 CDN which in my opinion offers the best deal going by far.
My use is 95% HT 5% music
im thinking about going the same route as you q650c, 350fronts
How does your sound for ht.
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or if anybody else have opinion.im thinking going all ultra fronts (centre and bookshelves) most expensiveor plain old jlbs 230s,235c.
the kefs would be like 400usd more than the jbls
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and the svs ultra would be like 400usd more the the kefswhat your opinion
i head the bower wilkins 685 s2 already .didnt like it
the cm series sound I liked
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I think you'd be getting a really good combo with the Q350 & Q650. From what you describe about what you haven't liked, those should really hit the sweet spot for you in both sound and money spent.
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